Maximum Power XL Wanted kids you definitely should yeah and so he was gonna draw it he was inspired by the conversation so he's gonna reduce his test to like milligrams a week that's good and then kick up the the Coloma and whatever but I think you know for a lot of guys that have been on gear you know they're psychologically addicted to their size and when the size comes down it's hard for them to grapple with that but anyway going back to that kind of young to middle-aged male you know from a natural standpoint you mentioned zinc.